Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Ashoka defeated at tamil soil



History of tamil empire who defeated ashoka invasion

In ancient times the Tamil nadu now known was divided into three major kingdoms chera nadu ,chozha(chola) nadu ,Pandya nadu (nadu means country in tamil).Apart form them there are other rulers like the Palava.The chera ,chola, pandya were called as Muventharkal which means Three kings (Mu=Three, ventharkal=kings) .

Many wars took place between the three kings. At one time chera will took over the whole tamil nadu,at the other time the chola and the pandya. Every king from Muventharkal is a powerful king .Wars held frequently and the king show his bravery, strength. Bravery is considered as an important thing .Mother of those soldiers who runaway from the battle field will cut their breast .Running away from the battle field is considered as a shameful thing and even if the king does it he will kill himself by throwing his sword up and show his bare chest.

As far as we know no other king in ancient India have ever ruled the chera , chola, pandya .They might have ruled the other countres in Tamil nadu but not the chera , chola , pandya.The powerful king in india known as ashoka who has captured almost the whole india and some other parts of asia cant able to capture chola.Why im particularly mention chola is , the rulers of tamil have united under chola after the kalinga war(chola havent rule the whole tamil nadu but they united it at that time).A war took place at Serupazhi and ashoka was defeated .This incident is not mentiond in ashoka's history but it was mentioned in Tamil Poetry. (the details of this war is taken from tamil history books).Many kings rage war against northern india and they have won. But they didnt rule the kingdoms they have won .Their motive is to win the war they fought with the kingdoms right from their territory to Himalayas and to place their Flag in the Himalayas. But the northern kingdoms havent mentioned these information in their history.The kings will took war aginst SAVA (Now known as Java islands),Malaya(now known as Malayasia) and ruled it.

But everything has changed at 100 A.D. After 100 A.D or around that time the tamil nadu undergoes many changes ,the rulers were weakened . Very clear descriptions were not found so this period was considered as The Dark Age. Then the pallavas came they ruled for many years .They captured allmost all parts of the tamil nadu and other countries in southern india & northern india.It was said that the pallava were northern indians ,some say persians. But it was wrong ,the Pallava were the ruler of Thondaimandala Nadu. Thondaimandala nadu was one of the countries in ancient Tamil nadu. They rename their kingdom as Pallava nadu.Their inscriptions were found in Tamil,sanskrit,prakrit.Early inscriptions were found in prakrit and later in Tamil, sanskrit. Because of their inscriptions in sanskrit and prakrit they were considered as north indians. But it is not so,The Pallva never called themself as north indians. Their art,culture belongs to the Tamil people.They have created a big temple in Cambodia commonly called as The Onkwart Temple. The language used by the priest in that temple is Tamil. The priest in the temple were not tamilians,they don't know Tamil ,But they do poojas in Tamil. The Onkwart Temple is the biggest hindu temple in the world. After ashoka was defeated he spraed budhism in Tamil nadu. So the two religions in Tamil nadu Saivam (Here sivan known as siva was the main god ),Vainavam (Here Thirumal known as vishnu was the main god) begin to disappear. But when Pallava become stronger they spread the saivam and vainavam and it became the religion Hindu religion now we know. The descendants of Pallava nadu bear a word Thondaimandala in their caste name.They were pure Tamilians.

The influence of sanskrit in Pallava nadu affected the Tamil language greatly. Due to that one among the Muventharkal (the people of chera) formed a new language malayalam(around 1200 A.D.) which uses exactly many Tamil words & sanskrit words as it is. The chera now known as kerala was divided into three zones .One among them is Thiruvithankur where Tamilians live . The Thiruvithankur is still a Tamil country even after malayalam come into existence and the people live there were Tamilians. But the Pallava never turned themselves into non-tamilians .They improved Tamil literature .

The chola grew into a powerful kingdom took over Pallava and other kindoms.During their period they built the famous Thanjay Periya koil ( Thanjay is Thanjavore or Tanjore, Periya means big, Koil means Temple. But now it was called as pragadeswar temple at tanjore. The thanjay periya koil bears a heavy weight of many tonnes in the top.

Every Tamil kingdom was declined and their territory were ruled by other people like the mysore king , vijayanagara king ,nawab ,british,fench,etc.

The Tamil history cannot be completely told because the history of Tamilians is a big ocean.There are many other Tamil rulers who have vanished by time and by Nature . The Tamilians were not a people who just belong to a country who belong to a continent Kumarikandam( A continent which lies below Tamil nadu ,a continent in the indian ocean which was destroyed by flood,many killer waves. Many powerful
kings ruled their territory in KumariKandam. According to tamil scholars the Kumarikandam extend upto Japan and cross over Africa. Pakruliyaru which is a river extends upto a long distance. There are many mountains which extend for a lond distance and huge ones. One among them is Meru.

You can leran a lot from Tamil history books like Ayirthetu andukalutku mun tamizhagam( The Tamil nadu before 1800 years) . The prsence of Kumarikandam is true ,as it was described in many tamil poets.Tamilians have the habit of writing history,medicine in poets. Tamilians are mighty rulers of the ancient world. Modern researches have found the tamil words are widely found across many languages in the world and the word which represent cow in Tamil were 12. Those 12 words were only found in all the languages in the world. Many european languages share Tamil words (This detail of cow words is actually told by a researcher from Makkal Tholakatchi , a Tamil TV channel.) One description from the tamil history book One scholar questions how come the indian snakes who afraid of water come into existence into a land surrounded by water three sides ?.

A powerful king called Nediyon ,a pandya king ruled the whole india after his territory in Kumarikandam was destroyed by azhiperalai ( azhiperalai refers to killer waves,tsunami). His older capital was Thenmadurai so he created a new capital called Madurai and ruled a big land.Tamil scholars consider that he should be the Bharathan .Tamil poets describe him as Bharathan,Bharathavan,etc. He won against sava people (early sava people were Tamilians) and he celebrated it has a very big victory .Sava refers to rice related words in Tamil Language (sava now known as Java islands). Tamil poets describe his victory as Munnir vizha(Vizha means festival & Mu means three & nir means Water)

Egyptians who consider themselves the descendants of Oore. Oore is a tamil word which refers to a place , region etc,. Many places in the tamil nadu bear Oore at the last.


All the information are entered so far are actually the knowlege i gain from various Tamil history books and the speeches of tamil scholars from Makkal Tholakatchi .

There are many wrong descriptions about Tamil history ,culture,cuisine,etc in the website. If you want to find the right one you have to read books on Tamil history written by tamil scholars. Or you can contact World Tamil Association or Makkal tholaikatchi ( a Tamil TV channel ).

13 comments:

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  2. very good work keep it up

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  3. U have just loaded lies as history with no proper evidence or reference.

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    1. If government make archeologist entry in chola rock edit you can't see your face

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  4. Ms. Bhavana.. If you feel he has loaded lies, why do not you pinpoint.. or if you have something to state contra.. present it..

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  5. 'After ashoka was defeated he spraed budhism in Tamil nadu'- I dont agree with it. Its always victorious whose influence will be marked.
    I dont think that Ashoka ever thought to conquer south. After Kalinga, he was pretty much pacified and relation with the South indian kingdoms should have been pretty much smooth. Thats how you see his inscription till Tamil Nadu.

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  6. Ashoka never got defeated, if i believe on u r words u said ashoka got defeated & then he spread Buddhism in South how can be that possible, victorious one can only able to do what he wants to do, not defeated one. And South india not conquered due to a reason 1.Good point is in South india they always United people. 2.is there r some conquerers who have tendency to defeate them, but whenever it took place the South leaders always make friendship with them or have political settlement...

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    1. Ashoka described it in his table that he was stop by the chola king elanjarchinni and join forces of other kingdoms in Tamilagam

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  7. can you mention some Tamil history books written by Tamil scholars

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  8. 1400 document are available at google you can search form that now

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